Hyundai, Kia hybrids come up a little short

Kia Optima hybrid and the Hyundai Sonata hybrid are coming up a bit short in terms of fuel economy and price. They look good, but it's hard to get over their premium.

A great looking hybrid, but……

No wonder Hyundai believes ICE is the key to better fuel economy

Boy did I have high hopes for Hyundai hybrid cars a few years ago. While Hyundai was slow to the hybrid game, as their hybrids moved closer and closer to reality, a few pretty bullish forecasts were teed up by a few South Korean executives.

Plus, its cool lithium-polymer battery technology seemed like maybe it could be a game changer.

I even predicted that one of Hyundai’s hybrids would enter the market as the cheapest, most fuel efficient hybrid sedan yet, but I was wrong.

Even before Hyundai launched the Sonata hybrid, my hopes began to falter during a technical briefing for the Sonata hybrid at which Hyundai reps explained the Sonata would be more of a highway hybrid.

A highway hybrid?

Sure, that made some sense as many Americans do still spend a good deal of time on the highway, and since the EPA skews fuel economy estimates towards the highway. Nevertheless, such an approach sounded gimmicky. Despite my worries, EPA estimated numbers of 35/40, city/hwy were pretty good, and coupled with the right price, the Sonata hybrid still had possibilities.

Another failure.

While both the Sonata hybrid and the Kia Optima hybrid are well styled and offer pretty refined drives, particularly on the highway, both hybrids fail on the two most important points: fuel economy and price.

Like the Ford Fusion hybrid, independent tests are demonstrating that Hyundai’s hybrids are coming up far short of EPA combined mileage estimates. Both are estimated to achieve a combined 37-38  mpg, yet InsideLine recently achieved only about 30 mpg in each vehicle in combined driving — noting that driving style during the tests was not aggressive, just more real world than the EPA’s outdated methods.

Unfortunately, it appears hybrids continue to be a great technology to game CAFE/EPA testing methodologies for exciting EPA sticker numbers that inevitably come up far short in reality.

Still, Hyundai’s fuel economy numbers would be fine  — even great compared to conventional offerings –  if either offered segment-busting pricing. Neither do.

Sadly, Hyundai’s lithium-polymer battery technology demonstrates that lithium still isn’t yet ready to be a game changer, and based on the comments of North American President John Krafcik regarding hybrids and plug-ins — almost mocking both, especially the later — during the last year of auto shows, that probably won’t change any time soon.

Don’t get me wrong. Both of these hybrids are very nice vehicles, but the less-than-stellar increase in real world fuel economy, especially compared to the lofty estimates,  justifies a lower price than what Hyundai is selling.

This guy is masturbating in an airport terminal [Planelopnik]

As if it’s not enough that air travelers are now prone to random micturation, one San Francisco airport visitor was snapped Thursday publicly engaging his in-pants entertainment in the view of other travelers, including a few children. After he finished, United probably tried to charge him a $35 handling fee. More »

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Ken Block Gymkhana Four Video Debuts With Nod to King Kong, Jaws

Just the Facts:

  • Ken Block takes his new H.F.H.V or Hybrid Function Hoon Vehicle based on the 2011 Ford Fiesta RS WRC car on an explosive trip through Universal Studios in the Gymkhana Four video.
  • The video pays homage to lots of movies, including Jaws, King Kong and Psycho.
  • The latest video is a blockbuster compared to Block’s previous cinematic efforts.



HOLLYWOOD, California — The latest Ken Block video — Gymkhana Four — has hit the Web crammed with everything from King Kong on a Segway to Bollywood belly dancers. Of course, Block’s new H.F.H.V. or Hybrid Function Hoon Vehicle based on the 2011 Ford Fiesta RS WRC car dominates every scene.

The video pays homage to lots of movies, including Jaws and Psycho, as Block shreds tires past the Bates Motel and a movie set with a bobbing mechanical shark. A zombie gnaws on a human limb in one scene as Block and car whiz by. The video is billed as a “Hollywood Megamercial.”

Block’s latest effort is a masterpiece of product placement and includes plenty of Ford EcoBoost engine glamour shots.

Inside Line says: Can you spot all the famous films?

Need for Speed: Most Wanted Xbox 360 – Final Pursuit

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Transportation Secretary: Electrical Issue Not Origin of Toyota Recall Woes

Read the Transcript: to.pbs.org Jeffrey Brown speaks with Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood about the investigation into Toyota’s recalls of more than 12 million vehicles after thousands of drivers complained of unintended acceleration. LaHood said an investigation showed that electronic flaws do not appear to have been the cause of the problems.

Spectre Performance SpeedLiner

The Bonneville Speedweek is a can’t-miss event on the calendar and anybody that has any remote interest in speed – that’s all of us – have been whetting their appetites in anticipation of what records are going to be broken in Utah. This year, a familiar vehicle to Bonneville has returned with some pretty lofty goals: become the fastest wheel-driven car in history.

We saw them break 366 mph without a sweat last year at the same event, and now Spectre Performance and its SpeedLiner are back for more. Since its record-breaking run at Bonneville last year, the SpeedLiner has gone on and upped the ante even more, having clocked a top speed of 415 mph at the Top Speed Shootout sanctioned by the Federation Internationale de l’Automobile last year.

So what’s the goal for Spectre Performance this year? Simple: break 430 mph.

If and when the Spectre Performance SpeedLiner does break its goal, we’ll have a video of their record-breaking performance when it becomes available. In the time, you can find out more about the Spectre Performance SpeedLiner after the jump.

Spectre Performance SpeedLiner originally appeared on topspeed.com on Wednesday, 17 August 2011 19:00 EST.

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Some comments are perfectly formed comedic riffs on the post in question. Others are informative little chestnuts that provide perspective and service to the community. Still others act as quality control, questioning an article’s premise or conclusion. And then there are those whose laughs happen when they’re taken completely out of context. More »

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U.S. Debut: 2012 BMW M5 – “Born on Nurburgring, ready to go to office”


Laguna Seca race track hosted the U.S. introduction of the new 2012 BMW M5. The super sporty sedan made its first debut back in June at the famous Nurburgring and will make its way to the American market in Spring 2012, rejoining the super sporty sedan segment with some tough competitors: Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG, Audi RS6 and Cadillac CTS-V.

The F10 BMW M5 builds atop the elegant and premium design of the new 5 Series sedan. The design language is easier on the eye than the previous E60 generation and the M5 enhances its aggressiveness with the M-specific design cues.

With the new generation M5, the M division delivers what one expects from an M car: aggressiveness, sportiness and elegance. The front spoiler takes the M5 a step further than the 5 Series models with the popular M-package, three large air intakes, blacked out grille and discreet rear spoiler located on the boot lid serves to optimize the car’s aerodynamics.

The new M5 will have a weight distribution of 51% front, 49% rear. The rear exhaust silencers are constructed of titanium and are far smaller than those featured on the series production car. Several kilograms were saved through the application of these silencers, thus the rear end was lightened considerably. As for the sound, the new M5 has an exhaust note uniquely different from that of the S63 found in the X5M and X6M cars.

BMW has moved on with the new F10 M5 from naturally aspirated engines to a TwinPower turbocharged V8. The high-revving 4.4-liter (4395cc) turbocharged uses the BMW M TwinPower Turbo technology, twin-scroll turbochargers, high-precision direct fuel injection, Valvetronic variable valve control and a cross-bank exhaust manifold.

The Valvetronic system has been heavily tuned and modified for the M5 such that turbo lag has been further reduced, and efficiency has been improved. On the test bench at full load the M5 engine shows a 30% improvement in efficiency over the S63 found in the X M cars while making the same power output.

The engine and gearbox have been mounted 20 mm lower in the frame to reduce the car’s center of gravity and improve handling. The engine has also been moved rearward to improve balance.

2012 BMW M5 will output 560 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and 501 lb-ft of torque (680 Nm) at 1,500 rpm. The new F10 M5 will run to 62 mph (100 km/h) in 4.4 seconds. To reach 124 mph (200 km/h), the new M5 needs about 13 seconds. Same as the old E60 M5, the M-Drivers-Package brings the top speed to 190 mph (305km/h). The engine is mated to a 7-speed M Double Clutch Transmission Drivelogic. A manual option is being considered for U.S. customers, but no official confirmation has been released at the moment.

Overall weight is reported to be 4,122/4,286lb (DIN/EU).

Unofficial Nurburgring lap times place the new M5 on the first position within its class.

Brian Watts, General Manager Global Sales and Marketing for BMW M, describes the 2012 M5 as the perfect combination between a track car and a business automobile. “Born on Nurburgring, ready to go to office, and this is why M is the most powerful letter in the world,” said Brian Watts in front of journalists at Laguna Seca.